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By popular request, here's one of Milly's shots from yesterday. She agreed with the crop, and the B&W conversion, but didn't like the added grain/noise. The version she preferred, which is very close to the original image, is here:


I'm sure she'd be delighted if her version ended up being the preferred one ;-)

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3.01 on 27/6/07
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
40mm (64mm equiv.)
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fylde coast [scenic] + non standard + taken by milly
comment by E y e V i s i o n at 10:00 PM (GMT) on 28 June, 2007

I think it is better with the noise. Reminds me one of those famous Robert Capa shots from Normandy. Well, without machine guns fortunately. :)

comment by Jennifer at 10:01 PM (GMT) on 28 June, 2007

Great shot Camilla - I like both versions. You perhaps need to be of an age that remembers early 60's b&w tv to appreciate the grain ;-)

comment by m at 10:05 PM (GMT) on 28 June, 2007

I go with Milly's choice, it's much better. With the grain added it's a bit like a capture from an old cine film. Move over Dave :-)

comment by Rich at 10:26 PM (GMT) on 28 June, 2007

In much agreement with it being reminiscent of the Normandy landings - this is almost an entrenched shot! Excellent stuff (and I like the grain :D )

comment by freddy at 11:49 PM (GMT) on 28 June, 2007

I do not know what of it tasks you, but I believe that... good blood not mind: -)

comment by Fred at 12:36 AM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

The crop/composition is excellent, so well done Milly. I also prefer the grainier one - it is more evocative.

comment by Kendall at 07:03 AM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

I'll go with Camilla on this one - I think the added grain is an acquired taste, and doesn't add anything to the shot, for me at least. Nice to see though, that she's picking up some pointers from her dad; I'm looking forward to seeing some more of the world as she sees it, from time-to-time.

comment by Richard Trim at 08:12 AM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

Most definitely should have been Camilla's personal choice and also her own pp ideas... after all if you are putting her images up then they should be as seen through an 11yr olds eyes and mind .... and we don't want two Nightingales producing images from the actions of one mind ....

comment by doreen at 08:29 AM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

i like camilla's version better =)

comment by Dan at 08:30 AM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

Have to go with Milly on this one, the added noise isn't to my taste, maybe if it wasn't so strong. But a great shot, well composed. You are going to need another photoblog you know...

comment by Lyle at 11:30 AM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

Personally, I prefer the un-noisy one, but that's my general preference for photos that haven't been heavily edited coming through again.

'tis a nice shot, though - always good to see a new voice coming through!

comment by Ash at 01:25 PM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

I have to agree with Milly... I prefer the cleaner version, at least for this shot.

By the way, I tested out the colour profile you mentioned the other day rather than Adobe 98, and the colours in Firefox are much, much better. Thank you!

comment by Alice at 02:04 PM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

I like the noisy version best. Great shot!

comment by josef at 02:34 PM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

Very nice!

comment by Sae-Gyu Jang at 03:46 PM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

Scene of movie..


comment by sara at 06:15 PM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

camilla: i prefer yours!!! =D
david: =P

comment by Dylan Tucker at 08:17 PM (GMT) on 29 June, 2007

I like Camilla's version better. As said above, in this shot the grain makes me feel like it was grabbed from and old movie.

comment by YETi at 05:08 AM (GMT) on 30 June, 2007

Milly must be getting some serious pocket money to afford one to one tuition from you David :D

comment by djn1 at 09:51 PM (GMT) on 30 June, 2007

Thanks all; from me and Milly :-)

comment by mnemospection photographie noir et blanc at 10:33 AM (GMT) on 1 July, 2007

a landscpage but aslo abstract : i love it, again!

comment by m at 04:37 PM (GMT) on 1 July, 2007

S prefers the clean one too!

comment by gmgrant at 05:25 AM (GMT) on 2 July, 2007

clean one is best

comment by JD at 12:09 PM (GMT) on 2 July, 2007

not sure weather I prefer noise or not... digital noise always seems to put me off but I can certainly see where your coming from with adding it!

The image definitely has an aged feel to it, possibly some sort of pinhole experimentation or something? and with the noise it does make it feel like faster film

comment by Rob at 08:00 PM (GMT) on 3 July, 2007

This is exceptional in both versions. I'm going ack and worth and can't decide. I like the pure white sash in the background without the noise a lot, but I also like grainy b&w. Great work on all counts.