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I had an email discussion a couple of weeks ago regarding the descriptions that I write to accompany my entries, and it was suggested that, perhaps, I "lead" the discussion by how I describe the worth of a given shot. So, for example, if I disparage something I put up – the focus isn't quite right, the composition could have been better – I get comments to match, and the same if I focus on something positive about the images I do like; i.e. I get a more positive response. So (as a quick experiment) either ...

I really like two things about this shot: the simplicity and "clean" feel to the composition, and the contrast between the neon-red lettering and the muted grey/blue colour palette of the remainder of the image.

Or ...

While there are some things I like about this shot – the colour scheme (particularly the contrast between the neon-red lettering and the muted grey/blue colour palette of the remainder of the image), and the simplicity of the composition – I'm not convinced that it works. Somehow it's almost too "clean"/clinical and lacks any real focus other than the lettering.

Feel free to ignore both of the above ;-) More seriously, I really wasn't sure which category to put this image in so thought I'd wait and see what everyone else thinks – hence the new "uncategorised" category (which I know is a bit of a contradiction in terms ;-).

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comment by darragh at 12:16 AM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

interesting comment Dave. personally i don't think it requires any real focus and would be as nice or nicer unbranded, ie. without the K2 logo.

comment by Ray Philson at 12:35 AM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

Well all I can say is I smiled when I saw the title of the image, the 'K2' and the slope left to right. The K2 being bang on a 'thirds' line may or may not be coincidental.

Good, clean, clever image

comment by Tom B at 02:08 AM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

Well. I think in reading your comments that I can tell that your true feelings lie in the latter comment.

But, without even reading your comments, which I tend to do after I have looked at the photo, I like this shot and think it works. I think the reason I like it is that different tones of blue, the angle of the building and the splash of 'K2' red.

Well done.

comment by Emily at 06:10 AM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

i think this is a pretty good shot, but to be honest, it's not one of my favourites. i think 'clinical' is what i think of it, and i guess the subject matter isnt something that really interests me. but if i'd attempted something like this, i think i would have botched it up, whereas you've done a decent job. the K2 red did make it different from all othere shots of buildings tohugh, as well as the angle.

comment by Seth at 09:13 AM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

The composition is excellent in the image, as noted in Ray's comment above (the K2 on the thirds line), and the color scheme works well (after all, blue and red are my favorite two colors). However, the image comes across as commercial; it feels like an ad for K2. While this may not necessarily be a bad thing, it certainly is a departure from your normal style of warm and meaningful images (i.e. yesterdays Photo Friday entry, "Mother"). This one is more about artistic elements than content.

comment by djn1 at 11:23 PM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

Thanks everyone, and I think that Seth hit the mark when he commented that this was a "commercial" shot. It isn't, but it certainly has that feel and I think, on the whole, this makes it a much less 'remarkable' effort than some of my recent stuff. Anyway, I decided to put this in my gallery category on the basis that nobody thought it was totally crap ;-)

comment by JR at 11:50 PM (GMT) on 31 July, 2004

Your best one yet IMHO.

comment by Jason Wall at 09:13 PM (GMT) on 2 August, 2004

I would have passed by this one as unremarkable at first glance. Its nice enough, but seems to fall into that category of things done before. There are a lot of photos with the same austere lines that seem to all look the same. It isn't a bad shot, but it lacks punch. No emotional trigger for me.

In your previous image, I commented that the photo's I liked best were ones that fell into the "light painting" category. I posted several examples. I grew tired of architectural photography early on in my personal experience because it seemed very little was said in the images beyond the, "oh neat!" factor. I found myself looking for imagery that in some way told a story. Most of my architectural shots were part of a survey of important cultural places in Saint Louis, all shot in 2002. A series is usually more appealing than a single shot, because you can say more about something that way. You can show the similarity in buildings and modes of construction, or show the contrast between neighborhoods and parts of town.

I find portraits appealing because they usually carry a more emotionally charged trigger. Your Mother Daughter shot can be derived symbolic of anyone’s Mom and their relationship with her child. The woman in the cafe is a cliché; a romanticized scene played out in movies and stories the world over. The photos of the little girl lift up the idea of youth, and the innocence it typically brings with it.

Light Painting type scenes usually have a strong emotional trigger geared toward the romantic. The overly saturated/hyper realistic photos can also have strong emotional triggers, but they are geared more towards nostalgia or darker more austere moments in time. The photo of the Old Automobile is typical of that kind of image. It was reminiscent of an older more aged time, but tinged with a bit of regret. Things were more dignified then, it would seem from the image.

Architecture is hard to speak with. The themes tend to be minimalist and esoteric in nature. They are less connected with the everyday realities we deal with, and thus don't usually have the same emotional triggers into our lives.


comment by Jason Wall at 09:26 PM (GMT) on 2 August, 2004

I should also note, I don't normally read other peoples comments before commenting myself, because I want to keep myself from being influenced before I've had a chance to form my own opinion. So if I reiterate comments already posted, my apologies.

comment by djn1 at 10:47 PM (GMT) on 2 August, 2004

Jason: on the whole, I agree - pictures of buildings rarely manage to convey the same emotional message as other forms of photography. That said, I do think it's possible. For example, the recent guest entry from Overshadowed is particularly powerful. I do take your point though.

comment by Jason Wall at 05:05 PM (GMT) on 3 August, 2004

Thats a good point, and I agree completely. Overshadowed's submission is a fantastic shot. It has great perspective, but more importantly, great coloring. The almost monochromatic scheme and the dark shadows lends itself to a great sense of foreboding. The light hint of blue in the sky and the orange glow of the lights in the windows of the building come together to great effect. I was instantly reminded of "The Day After Tomorrow" and the last scenes in "A.I.".