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This is the third and final shot in this small series, and as you can see, it's taken from somewhat further away than the other two. Actually, up until getting the 5D this shot wouldn't have been possible as it's shot at 17mm and the remainder of the pier (visible on the right hand side of this shot is at my back; i.e. with the 1.6 crop on the 20D it wouldn't appear to be quite so far away.

As for the three as a whole, I think the first is definitely my favourite, with this one running a reasonably close second. Yesterday's, on the other hand, had many elements that I liked – the toning, the detail, and so on – but the shot as a whole didn't seem to work quite as well as this one and the first one.

As always (though I'm sure you get fed up with me saying this), I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

3x2 + piers [St. Annes] + fylde coast [scenic]
comment by Richard Trim at 08:04 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

I expect I'll put my foot in it again David ... but I thought that the thing about 'classical thirds ' was that it was conceived to make people avoid focusing on putting things 'dead centre'. But it seems that rules are to be broken ... but does this mean '' do what the hell you like ' ? Please put me out of my misery!!!!!!!!
I some time think that my 'so called good shots' are lucky breaks ... inspite having put thought into the composition.

comment by Jennifer at 08:04 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

Love the foreground detail - but the 1st is my fave.

comment by Justin Gaynor at 08:13 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

This is my favorite of the 3 David, for both the composition and gentle toning. The textures in the sand are also quite pleasing. Nice image all around.

comment by Ian Flemming at 08:25 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

Richard: The so called rule of thirds should really be seen as mere conventions. What is perhaps more important is that when you compose an image you place subjects or points of focus in such a way that they look like they are meant to be there.

Some very good photographers wouldn't ever consider using the rule of thirds because of the very fact they don't want to conform.

I just think that composition is simply the arrangement of elements in the frame with the intent of causing unity. That unity can be achieved in many ways by using symmetry or asymmetry or in fact any other way possible.

comment by Robert at 09:11 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

Seems like a huge industrial structure off in the distance; I like the strong feeling of isolation.
I agree with Ian: let the eye, not the book, decide what works.

comment by Mal at 09:16 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

God was on your side with this one Dave, everything seems to converge on the focal point! Ripples clouds and all! Beautiful image. Rules - who cares? Mal

comment by m at 09:29 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

I think I like it!

comment by Steve @ rigger.ca at 09:51 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

David - I think this shot is quite nice. I do enjoy the detail in the foreground. I am curious with your comment that this shot would not have been possible on the 20D. If you had the 10-22mm that Canon offers it would be wide enough to capture this kind of image no doubt. It would not have been possible with your current lenses, but surely it is possible with a wide angle lens made for the 1.6 crop factor cameras.

comment by Ryano at 11:36 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2007

Best of the 3! texture of the sand, tones in the sky...beautiful. reminds me of a beginning of the earth scene. Love your work David

comment by eric at 12:11 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

Yes, no doubt for me, it's the best of the three ! It's peacefull and well composed ! In french now, because it's easier for me ;-)
La composition est tout à fait adaptée, à mon sens, à cette photo. Avec une telle symétrie, le centrage est naturel. Et n'oublions pas que la fameuse "règle des tiers" est une pure invention théorique qui n'a pour ainsi dire jamais été appliquée par les plus grands peintres !! Il suffit de déambuler au Louvre (for example) pour s'en convaincre !!

comment by Kennedy at 02:04 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

Wow. I love it. The way everything merges and fits nicely. The composition, colours, contrast. Simply breathtaking.

I think the object looks great dead center. Well done. <3.

comment by Billy at 03:46 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

Wonderful light in all three photos. I agree with the other comments that the convergence at the center of the photo is stunning. Excellent contrast and amazingly well balanced.

comment by P.J. at 06:39 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

What excellent detail! Great image!

comment by peter at 06:58 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

This is what wide angle lenses were made for. All lines seem to meet right in the centre of the frame. The angle of light has also helped to emphasise the structure of the ripples in the sand.
As for my personal favorite in this series, I would have to go for the first shot. It has the edge simply due to the fantastic light. In a perfect world I would have preferred not to have vapour trails in the shot, although they do help lead the eye in this case.

comment by David Chabashvili at 07:17 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

one word - beautiful! love the detail and composition..the lens is great! this is certainly my favorite shot from last three. The rythm of the sand really captures the attention. Excellent!!!

comment by Mark at 12:05 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

This is my favourite of the three. The colours and textures are great.

On the topic of pebbly beach's to shoot, and whilst it's not exactly convenient for you, I'd suggest the 18 mile long Chesil Beach in Dorset. It's the thin strip of land that connects Portland to the rest of the county. Check http://www.flickr.com/photos/74964058@N00/33215432/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/skirkybaby/163849624/

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comment by YETi at 07:13 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

This is a beautiful place and I enjoy going to this pier myself. I'm just so impressed with the overall quality of the image and nothng is left to chance. Superb!

I would like to see a HDR image of this pier if you ever get chance ;-)

comment by djn1 at 08:32 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

Thanks everyone.

Richard: composition is a rather odd thing – some times the 'rules' work, and other times they don't. I think that Ian hit it on the head when he said that "composition is simply the arrangement of elements in the frame with the intent of causing unity". I'd put it even more simply and say that this shot is balanced. Any other composition, with the pier at such a small size in the frame, would have introduced some tension into the composition that I was trying to avoid.

Steve: yes, I meant that it wouldn't have been possible with the 20D and my lenses, the 10-22 on a 20D would have given much the same result.

YETi: ok, I'll give it go next time I'm over there.

comment by Richard Trim at 08:59 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2007

Thanks Ian and Dave

comment by Rebecca M. at 12:54 PM (GMT) on 28 January, 2007

Strangely, something about the appearance of the pier in this photo is reminiscent, to me, of a row of children with arms outstretched holding each other's hands.

Anyway, I love everything about this image. Beautiful work. :)

comment by Kevin at 04:45 AM (GMT) on 29 January, 2007

excellent shot - love the wide angle and the toning

comment by Regis at 11:27 AM (GMT) on 29 January, 2007

Looks infinite...

comment by KJM at 12:49 PM (GMT) on 29 January, 2007

Continueing Rebecca's "say what you see" I find it reminiscent of two figures sitting at either end of a long table. As a result, I'd probably have titled it "Would you pass the salt".

comment by Photo Buffet at 04:27 PM (GMT) on 29 January, 2007

Amazing shot. I love your perspective. This one photo has so much to appreciate, from the unnusual patterns in the sand to the distant pier and blue-green sky. Really beautiful.

comment by jeff at 02:46 AM (GMT) on 3 February, 2007

I like the subtle saturation. very sharp.

comment by Lud@ at 07:23 PM (GMT) on 6 February, 2007

Very nice shot. I like the sky and processing. I could imagine it with little bit more vingnetting to make a closer atmosphere. Very nice details in the sand.